Okay, first? I COMPLETELY blame the British for shipwrecks.
I think the point the Minutemen are making is more of a general system problem, that A)people here illegally shouldn't be here and should be deported, and B)if you know someone is here illegally, you have caught them committing crimes and have identified them as an illegal immigrant, why the hell is the person NOT deported, and in this case if they had been deported the murder wouldn't have happened. I don't think they are saying the underlying cause of the crime was his being an illegal alien, I think they are saying that because we had a way to address his illegal status and didn't take it that the crime was essentially allowed to happen.
I guess for me it is like when someone (nationality doesn't matter, could be a US citizen) is pulled over for speeding. Say a cop doesn't run them through the system, gives them a ticket/warning, and then lets them on the way. Then we find out later that this was someone with outstanding arrest warrants, and after going on his way the guy killed three people. We would fault the cop/system for not running the person though the database since the warrants would have popped up, the person would have been arrested, and the killings wouldn't have happened.
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Date: 2008-07-31 02:07 pm (UTC)I think the point the Minutemen are making is more of a general system problem, that A)people here illegally shouldn't be here and should be deported, and B)if you know someone is here illegally, you have caught them committing crimes and have identified them as an illegal immigrant, why the hell is the person NOT deported, and in this case if they had been deported the murder wouldn't have happened. I don't think they are saying the underlying cause of the crime was his being an illegal alien, I think they are saying that because we had a way to address his illegal status and didn't take it that the crime was essentially allowed to happen.
I guess for me it is like when someone (nationality doesn't matter, could be a US citizen) is pulled over for speeding. Say a cop doesn't run them through the system, gives them a ticket/warning, and then lets them on the way. Then we find out later that this was someone with outstanding arrest warrants, and after going on his way the guy killed three people. We would fault the cop/system for not running the person though the database since the warrants would have popped up, the person would have been arrested, and the killings wouldn't have happened.